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Post by Poppy on Feb 17, 2017 20:07:59 GMT
Never heard it before.
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Post by Helen on Feb 17, 2017 21:17:15 GMT
Yes, still love that one..
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Post by ivor on Feb 20, 2017 10:09:27 GMT
breakfast and watching the world go by
notice Yvonne's crown of the London Eye
we watched the guards changed with armed police keeping an eye on the crowds
great Musical and one scene the "Flash Bang what a Picture" part was the very best thing I have ever seen on a stage
We both love the London touristy stuff - this is Pall Mall down from Trafalgar Square we always have lunch in a pub next to Horse Guards and the war memorial
in the Sheffield Train station before our trip
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Post by Poppy on Feb 20, 2017 10:31:20 GMT
Great pics Ivor. Yvonne suits her 'crown'.
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Post by Helen on Feb 20, 2017 15:49:07 GMT
What lovely photos Ivor. I presume taken on a smart-phone? I know I never use my camera any more for photos, I always use my iPad which takes marvellous photos. Nice to see you " getting away" and having fun together.
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Post by ivor on Feb 20, 2017 18:32:08 GMT
Its our rule - every six week a few days away.. we are staying in Derby in 4 weeks Yvonnes training for her new job so rather than commute 12 train journeys over three days we'll book a room.
I'll occupy myself with pubs and motorcycle shops or the cinema in the day and we'll go out at night somewhere. All cities have energy.. may look in at a church even ... you never know
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Post by Poppy on Feb 20, 2017 19:37:49 GMT
Sounds good Ivor.
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Post by james on Feb 20, 2017 20:28:05 GMT
All sounds great fun Ivor. I do like the songs from half a sixpence, Tommy Steel he still with us?
You might look at a church, careful son you don't stray
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Post by ivor on Feb 21, 2017 7:28:56 GMT
James when I look at churches its not in a longing for spiritual growth or enlightenment
It's for the possibility of strong fresh coffee and large slabs of home made cake that our dear sisters bake at home for their tea room and the chance to share it with some homeless guy that's in there for a warm and to tell his story to anyone who'll listen.
A few quid that's not really missed by me and cannot even be measured as loss cheers them up for the moment but having a normal conversation is most important to the invisible people - they expect a religious "come on" but instead I chatter to them unconditionally about anything
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 9:05:34 GMT
James when I look at churches its not in a longing for spiritual growth or enlightenment
It's for the possibility of strong fresh coffee and large slabs of home made cake that our dear sisters bake at home for their tea room and the chance to share it with some homeless guy that's in there for a warm and to tell his story to anyone who'll listen.
A few quid that's not really missed by me and cannot even be measured as loss cheers them up for the moment but having a normal conversation is most important to the invisible people - they expect a religious "come on" but instead I chatter to them unconditionally about anything "The Church's one foundation is coffee, tea and cakes"
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Post by Helen on Feb 21, 2017 16:10:21 GMT
Great Post Ivor...right on the button...( but seeing all the buttons on the joke page...not sure WHICH button )
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Post by Dave on Feb 21, 2017 16:14:24 GMT
Like a mighty coffee shop, moves the church of God, The one I go too is very suburban, not in your homeless district; they have the best coffee, it's even called "Good" Earth coffee, so no homeless, so one is left to just share coffee and the Lord with the needy. Good "up the smoke" photos Ivor.
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Post by Poppy on Feb 21, 2017 16:34:13 GMT
Many years ago I heard a visiting preacher tell a story I’ve never forgotten. He was visiting the City That Never Sleeps – New York – and arrived late at night. Being hungry he left his down-town hotel room and went out on the streets looking for food. The all-night café he chose was clean but cheap and he went in and ordered his food. As he sat there enjoying his meal a group of women came in and he realised they were street girls – prostitutes. He was curious when the owner produced a birthday cake decorated with candles. His curiosity getting the better of him he asked who’s birthday it was and was told that it was for one of the girls who hadn’t arrived and that she had never before had a birthday party so they were clubbing together to make her first ever party. The birthday girl duly arrived and was overwhelmed and moved to tears by what greeted her in that little café. The man wished her a happy birthday and paid his bill at the counter but before returning in to his hotel room he also offered a donation to the cost of the party.
After telling us this moving story we couldn’t guess what the ‘punch line’ would be but it has always stuck with me. He said, “I want to be part of a church that makes parties for prostitutes.”
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Post by Helen on Feb 21, 2017 16:42:44 GMT
Excellent Pat. Good word.
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Post by Dave on Feb 21, 2017 18:56:46 GMT
Tony Campolo tells a similar story of "girl" hookers in a place he was to minister; on arriving at his hotel; he was propositioned but went upstairs to his room, then decided he would do something and went down and said to the "girls". I want all three of you, come upstairs, when in the room he said to them, what would you "really" like? after some thought, they said, Ice cream and to watch Disney movies; so he sent out for buckets of ice cream and disney movies and he said for one night, they were children again. Now when Tony tells a story; it's always with feeling.
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Post by Poppy on Feb 21, 2017 19:35:32 GMT
I think the church needs to get out of its respectable comfort zone and mix with the sort of people that Jesus mixed with. The Salvation Army do it and many other small groups do it but mainstream church? perhaps less so. My own church welcomes homeless people in but then doesn't seem to do much befriending so after a couple of times they stop coming or only come when they know there's a fellowship lunch.
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Post by Dave on Feb 22, 2017 6:02:09 GMT
I'm always up for a fellowship lunch; does that put me in the homeless crowd I ask
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Post by Poppy on Feb 22, 2017 9:55:45 GMT
You aren't homeless Dave so obviously not. I was just making the point that although people are welcome to just come for the food it would be nice if they came at other times too and that we could do more to help them by befriending them and discovering their personalities as Ivor said and helping them to get their lives sorted.
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Post by Dave on Feb 22, 2017 15:08:42 GMT
Pat, I think the Jesus pattern to his disciples was; "Go ye" into------- not, let them "come" and Oh, and did you notice my funnies by my homeless quip?
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Post by ivor on Feb 22, 2017 15:12:54 GMT
"make disciples" is interesting because that takes time and effort - firstly we ourselves have to be a footstep follower of Jesus to show the way and not tell the way
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