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Post by Dave on Jul 21, 2016 16:08:08 GMT
It's odd to me that patience is mentioned more in the new than the old testament, although we know it was a quality that gets Job a mention in James. As I read of Job I would have not have chosen patience as one of his virtues; James concludes that it's the trying of your faith that WORKETH patience ( that answers my Job thing) and that we are to let patience have " her" perfect work, so that we can run the race. So patience has to be a quality in the Christian character, but how is it imparted, it would appear by tribulation according to scripture. Are the natural and the spiritual patience the same, I think not. I don' t think either East or the West sold out concerning patience, way back in Jesus time a man got a penny a day, God says, " Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn, and the laborer is worthy of his reward" My father in law was perfectly patient " until" ------------ anything became late but in the spirit, he could wait patiently, ( well most times). My gifting at the moment is patience with the " im " added. Is it how I react to my patience being tested, the barometer to my walk in the spirit I ask myself??? Blessings with the buses Rita, and Ivor may you always have the wind to your back and a waterproof available.
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Post by james on Aug 13, 2016 21:42:36 GMT
[/fontSo I was talking with this man yesterday and he said to me, never having met me before, "your pretty chilled out person aren't you"?
Made me wonder is being 'chilled out' the same as patience?
James
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Post by Helen on Aug 14, 2016 2:45:36 GMT
So I was talking with this man yesterday and he said to me, never having met me before, "your pretty chilled out person aren't you"?
Made me wonder is being 'chilled out' the same as patience?
James That is quite a compliment eh. I must say the couple of times I have phoned you, I found you much more laid back than I was expecting. After the first phone call Dave did say that it didn't sound like you were pining away for Jeanette or the family. But we did hope you were not living on bowl of oatmeal in the morning and a slice of toast before bed!!!! If so ,you wont be much help to them when you finally get over there...you will flop down totally exhausted, and skinny as a rail.
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Post by ivor on Aug 14, 2016 3:50:26 GMT
Patience is a strange virtue.
Is not what people imagine - it's simply knowing the thing that we expect to happen will come along sooner or later, this may be because of a previous experience or a trusted persons promise.
James the jumper you wear.. we all know it will come back in fashion eventually as everything does - but it doesn't stop us getting on with things... patience is not lazy, sitting around waiting.....patience is the character trait of someone who has in the past had to wait for the fulfilment of something and learned to be content with the wait knowing things will be as they should in the end.
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Post by Helen on Aug 14, 2016 14:36:54 GMT
Made me wonder is being 'chilled out' the same as patience?
James I note that I didn't fully answer..I just said "chilled out" was a compliment. As I think on it I think "chilled out" is not quite the same as patience...I think "Chilled out" speaks more of rest and peace which are a little different than patience ( but are also a fruit of the Spirit) That said, you have been very patient with the whole Bulgaria/Vicarage sale thing....back six months ago I would probably have used the word lethargic!!! LOL Yet it does say in Luke 21 .." In patience possess ye you souls" So bro....you are right on track.
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Post by james on Aug 14, 2016 21:19:22 GMT
The truth is I did pine when they first went, I was very emotional and felt lost and alone. I would venture to say that I understood how death would feel, I mean if one suddenly fond oneself on ones own.
One has to apply the oil of joy for mourning and put on the garment of praise.
Just so you do not worry unduly over food Helen, today breakfast was shredded wheat. Lunch was braised beef cooked in red wine with carrots and onions, boiled potatoes which were then fried with a large side order of boiled cabbage. I followed this with hot fudge cake and ice cream, tea was one plain and one chocolate breosh with strawberry jam, still feeling peckish I had a Ryevita Marmite sandwich followed by to slices of toasted fruit loaf and then plain chocolate cake with ice cream covered with squeeze chocolate sauce. If I pop to the shop first thing tomorrow and buy a loaf I will start the day with bacon and egg on toast.
This is all stuff I am eating up left over from when we had to empty the freezer to send it overseas.
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Post by Helen on Aug 17, 2016 21:20:55 GMT
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Post by james on Aug 18, 2016 23:30:26 GMT
Just read the story Helen very hard to read that stuff, a marvellous conversion from death to life. Makes me wonder if he met the Lord.
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Post by Dave on Aug 19, 2016 4:03:57 GMT
I got around to reading it Helen, pretty gruesome. 40,000 to 60,000 was the amount of people who lived in Bexhill when I grew up there and when you multiply that around the world, the nations of the quote" unborn". The sands of the sea. So God does still use dreams to touch peoples hearts.
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Post by Helen on Sept 10, 2016 16:43:00 GMT
By Dr. Jim Garlow
1 " Most people have never checked out what the party platforms say. They should. If a person is not drawn to the "top-of-the-ballot" candidate, they ought to at least consider voting for the candidate attached to the best party platform. 2. Analogy #1: Both candidates are flawed. We all know that. But permit me an analogy: As a pastor, I would rather deal with a church attendee who is blatant and brash in his sinning than one who is devious, lying, cunning and deceptive. Both are problematic, but one is easier to deal with than the other. If I were a pastor bringing correction to a parishioner, I would prefer dealing with a "Trump-type" any day over a "Hillary-type." The chances of making progress with the "Trump-type" is many times greater than the "Hillary-type." 3. Analogy #2: When my (late) wife's remarkable and much loved oncologist said, "Don't take Carol to that alternative (non FDA approved) treatment." I asked, "Why not?" He said, "The unknown." I said, "Doctor, your 'known' is much worse than the alternative treatment's 'unknown.'" (I took her to that alternative treatment. One year later that same oncologist went to the alternative treatment doctor to see how it was that Carol had improved so much. While this alternative treatment did not ultimately save her life, it likely stretched two to three years of life to six years of life—by the admission of another one of her brilliant young oncologists who later said, "Without any medical training or scientific fact, you have put together a protocol of treatment that has moved her into the top fraction of 1 percent of survival rates of all patients with Carol's particular cancer). Application of the analogy: Hillary's "known" is considerably worse—many times over—than Trump's "unknown." 4. Trump has lots of sins in his past (actually, we all do), and—in the present—says things he should not say. I make no attempt to defend any of the things he has said. There is no need to rehearse the wrong things he has said. We know what they are. He should not have thought or said them. But there is no need to rehash them here. So we won't. But let's turn to the other candidate. Although America has had some scandal-ridden candidates in its history, we have never seen any one major party candidate more constantly scandalous as Hillary (along with her husband). She seems to exceed all previous boundaries for wrongdoing. The scandals just don't stop. In the same way we did not take time to list all of Trump's misstatements, neither will we here rehash the seemingly continuous string of horrific scandals of the Clintons.
5. Trump is slowly being surrounded by increasingly good people. From time to time, I receive encouraging calls regarding this. Can these good people impact Trump? We will see. In contrast, I see no reason for any encouragement regarding the people who surround Hillary. 6. Trump is right on approximately 75 percent of the issues. I wish it was 100 percent. It is not. I am in hopes that those beginning to surround him can help him connect the dots on more issues. Hillary is wrong on 100 percent of the issues. 7. This next issue might be one of the most important, but I suspect few will understand its significance. Trump opposes globalism. Hillary thrives on it. Globalism is far more than "geographical" or "eliminating national borders and boundaries." It is spiritual, that is, demonic at its core. Few—very few—understand this. This is quite likely one of the main reasons why Trump is hated. Do your homework on this one. Think "principalities and powers." Serious. Extremely serious. 8. Not voting is not a viable option, contrary to what the "purists" claim. It is not my intention to begin a war of the issue. I know that some radically disagree with this. My view? They have the right to be wrong. 9. Voting for a third party candidate is—regardless of what is said—a complete "throw-away." No third party candidate will be elected, or even come remotely close to being elected. And yes, that matters to me. And for the record, the Libertarian ticket—Johnson and Weld—is nearly as bad on many issues as Hillary. When I listen to them, I am stunned people of their ability have ever made it to elective office. 10.Trump has moved pro-life. Hillary is pro-baby killing, and prides herself on that, and honors the organization—Planned Parenthood—that actually traffics human parts from dead babies whom they have killed. This is below anything we have seen since Nazi Germany. The gall of Hillary! The Clintons have evaded justice for decades and likely will continue to. But they will someday stand before the Great White Throne. They will have to give account of their support of the ripping babies to shreds in the womb. For the record, those who vote for those who support the genocide of pre-borns will also have to give an account. 11.Trump wants to defend the nation (which is the purpose of government). Hillary has a horrific track record as Secretary of State, and due to hundreds of millions of dollars given to her and her husband's foundation, she is beholden to those who want us dead. 12.Hillary claims "everything is fine" in America. This defies every single fact, but facts have never been an interest of Hillary's. Trump understands that it is 11:59 p.m. on the "cultural clock." America is near the end—morally, economically, militarily and, sadly, spiritually. There are very clear identifiable indicators—measurable ones— © Copyright Oak Initiative – Oak Leaf 2016 Page 4 Members Have Permission to Duplicate that America is no longer the world's leading power. That day is over. Hillary will hasten the final destruction. Trump could either slow that down—or possibly, with God's help—reverse it. Maybe. 13.Trump will address the massive government spending. Hillary will expand it above the existing unsustainable debt the U.S. currently is carrying (almost $20 trillion plus unfunded liabilities to Social Security, etc.). 14.Trump will expose—and I pray, bring down—"the systemic evil" (crony, deceitful, misuse of capitalism) that reigns among many high-dollar lobbyists. Hillary thrives because of them. 15.Trump will stop the massive overreach of government. Hillary will extend it. 16.Freedoms come in "threes." Political freedom, economic freedom and religious liberty coexist together. Take one away and the other two will eventually disappear. One cannot exist without the other two. The genius of America is that it had all three, until recently. Trump fully grasps the loss of religious liberty. I have heard him speak on it in person on several occasions. He knows that economic and political freedoms are evaporating. He will reverse that. Hillary will decimate all three. 17. Every rational person knows the Supreme Court appointments are paramount. Trump has listed 11 superb potential nominees. Hillary's appointments would snuff out the tiny vestige of the three freedoms that are left (mentioned in the statement above). 18. I make no excuse for wrongdoing or wrongful, hurtful words from either candidate. Candidly, I want King Jesus. He rules in my heart. And yours too, I suspect. And I want him to rule here—now. But that day is not fully manifested—yet. In the meantime, we prayerfully, carefully navigate this challenging election season, with great concern that above all, we honor our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in every arena of our lives, including the voting booth. That is my hope. It is yours as well."
Dr. Jim Garlow is pastor of Skyline Church in San Diego. He is also cofounder of The Jefferson Gathering, a weekly worship service for members of Congress at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C.
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Post by Dave on Sept 22, 2016 17:50:18 GMT
Anyone have an interpretation on this, The universe is implicitly and explicitly of one piece. At the point of perfect stasis between the implicit and explicit, there is a condition of hypersynchronicity, where matter, energy, space and time move into a ' no- resistence' mode of infinite potential. This is the synchronizing of matter to a ' zero point' of perfect synchronicity. How do you like those apples
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Post by Poppy on Sept 22, 2016 18:32:38 GMT
Don't understand a word.
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Post by Helen on Sept 22, 2016 18:42:31 GMT
Agree....I think Dave just enjoyed the long words. I think people who talk like that with long strange words, like to think themselves as smart, clever, or whatever. probably they never can just sit and watch a waterfall or waves crashing....
I like simple things, and simple people. Not stupid ones, but normal people who speak normally without trying to impress. Say what you mean, and mean what you say. That's me.
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Post by Poppy on Sept 22, 2016 19:02:46 GMT
What's the point of saying anything if people can't understand. I like simplicity of speech like you Helen.
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Post by james on Sept 22, 2016 21:33:15 GMT
I thought it meant that the pendulum swings left and right but at one point it is neither left or right as it reaches the middle and when at this unbiased point anything is possible.
If it does not mean that then I have no idea what anyone is talking about.
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Post by Dave on Sept 23, 2016 4:15:42 GMT
I say Amen to that bro .most of the time I have no idea what anyone is talking about
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Post by james on Sept 23, 2016 23:04:28 GMT
Good to know I am not alone then.
I am finding it most hard to find anyone now days who really means what they say. I find I agree a deal or a project with someone and then I get '"we said thus and so but to qualify what I said >>>>>>>" and the qualifying bit is just a way of saying we agreed but now I have changed my mind. Where is the man who will swear to his own hurt, as the bible says.
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Post by Dave on Sept 24, 2016 15:49:48 GMT
Plus James; where's the man who takes the spoiling of his goods joyfully I ask . Every man does right in his own eyes; it's only in the eyes of another that he does wrong, just thought of that.
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Post by james on Sept 24, 2016 21:04:04 GMT
That young David is the very point Bishop Jakes makes in his video that Daniel put on FB , Powerful word. I enjoyed it very much and entered into the alter call at the end , still need to let go of so much junk.
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Post by ivor on Sept 25, 2016 2:26:08 GMT
I've never listened to TJ Jakes stuff as I avoid anything from anyone who is in bed with Kenneth Copeland, I spent a little time with Nathan Morris and he attended my home but I so worry about his newly found wealthy desires with the deceptive Kenneth Copeland Ministries and his "name it and claim it"" mentality..... Nathan was a very sound spirit-filled young man influenced by his father Peter into sadly chasing after Kenneth Copeland and has since appeared to let go of sound spiritual teaching in favour of bringing God's kingdom to earth without Jesus doing it.
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