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Post by james on Feb 29, 2016 16:52:24 GMT
Which I suspect Helen is why Paul pointed out if I give my body to be burned but have not Love I am nothing. There is no point in doing works that do not proceed from a belief system of Love.
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Post by Dave on Feb 29, 2016 17:18:09 GMT
James, First the natural, our coyotes live on the hill across from the E.M.S and fire hall, so when they get called out and activate the sirens, the coyote chorus is activated and harmonizing is not one of their qualities. This one was taller than Odd ( not that difficult) and was built for speed not comfort ( that's Odd) I have on occasions seen Ma and Pa out at the dusk on a summers nite. This one still had his winter heavy coat on, he will have a go at small dogs who wander, as Julie's Molly, (if she was still here could attest to) R,I,P. Hunger is always a constant with them but this year, many meals on wheels ( rabbits) it is very rare to see them in the daytime. Ah, Ricky Dicky the pastor is doing a "thing" on the different aspects of "I will build my church" Of course as you know this, Adam was created, Eve was built from Adam and it was God who built her, Paul says in Eph 2 vs 21& 22 "In whom" all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: "In whom" ye also are "builded" (Eve) together for an habitation of God through the Spirit. His thought being, Roms 12 vs 5, as members, we are to serve the Lord thru one another ( Jerusalem) then, go to ( Samaria) to serve those who are in need of Him, " and as you do it to the least of these------------ ) you serve me. How easy it is to pass by on the other side. I still believe, as is recorded of Jesus, He went about doing good and that seems to have been His Fathers business. Other than wearing a Jesus sticker, how will they know?
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Post by Dave on Feb 29, 2016 17:28:30 GMT
Sorry I missed this one James, And there is no point in "having" a belief system of love that does not produce works as I see it, it appears fasting is the flavour at the moment, could that be God or just another work?
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Post by james on Mar 1, 2016 10:48:15 GMT
I enjoyed the joke Dave. Fasting and flavour, don't remember much flavour the last time I fasted.
These things come in waves, might be a new wave or as you say the church trying something to see if they can get a result. All comes back to the Lord building the house and not us trying to get the job done for him. Did not much like the sound of the wolf coyote, I like my wild animals to stay in the wild, not come to visit me in town. What's next grizzly bears out on the deck?
Helens information on Dan's visit sounded good, any sign of you off on a preaching visit with him some time soon? That way you will be the more miles more power guy. Seem to remember the last time you had folks slain in the spirit when you prayed for them. Time I took the hounds out for a soggy walk round the grounds.
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Post by Dave on Mar 1, 2016 19:48:45 GMT
Sometimes, as I think about the, "go ye into all the world bit" and preach the kingdom of God and then you find yourself sitting like a bump on the log, one wonders if, as Jesus says in Luke 9vs 62 that, am I guilty of looking back, have something to bury, or as vs 61 says, I can't say goodbye to certain things, God knows but it seems he's not telling, So nothing on the preaching front but may be the Lord will surprise me, I have all the answers but nobody asks the right questions, We do get a few black bears in the city but not Grizzlies, they are a territorial lot, we used to see deer opposite us but since the coyotes have moved in, no deer, there must be a type and shadow there. I was singing " Blow a trumpet in Zion , Zion, sound an alarm" we used to add a jewish flavour to the dance or more like the jig, anyway that's vs 1 of Chpt 2 Joel but vs 15 also starts " Blow a trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly" I don't remember dancing to that verse, it would appear things were not looking to good for Zion at the time, so a fast is called, is that what the outer court are hearing I ask? Hope you had your whellies on for the dog walk, a lot of times it's my quiet time but others, it's my whine time, " for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of evil." and that's under an old covenant.
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Post by james on Mar 1, 2016 22:33:20 GMT
I am not sure it is the fault of the MOVE. What I mean by that is one can look back and see the good times, the times that projected one forward in an ever increasing thrust and power of God. This was to such a degree that by now one should have been walking on water. That was when I had the thought "not the fault of the MOVE". Not its fault that I am not a powerhouse preacher, not its fault that I am not more than I see myself to be. Even without the MOVE I bet I would still be looking back and saying "well I never expected to be doing this at a ripe old age". "What happened to all the dreams and aspirations, where did all the forward direction go? Why is it there is no real vision made dramatically apparat for me today?
MOVE or no MOVE, latter rain or not I reckon this is where I would be whatever my experiences in God had been. What is that where you ask, well its the knowledge that I know less now than I ever did about what the Lord is doing and how he is going to do it. I know even less about how or even if I do have any place in his unfolding plan.
Now there is one thing that I do know with absolute certainty, and that is why Paul called it a "great mystery".
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Post by Dave on Mar 2, 2016 2:39:57 GMT
James, maybe bump sitting is the learning process for contentment, as Bro Paul wrote " for I have learned------" Maybe I should rewrite it " hopefully I am learning" If it's true that the steps of a God man are ordered by the Lord, then we are each one in the palm of His hand and that's a good place to be.!!!!!!!! I've never been a very good spectator, I wonder what crossed Abrahams mind sitting in his tent door, words and promises, then, God visits the "woman" and father Abraham has a son in his old age, at the SET time of which God had spoken to him, The problem is, I'm at the wrong end of the time thing, but then, so was Bro AB. If I keep going I might feel a pentecostal spasm coming on. Geriatrics Arise, could be the trumpet sound, Hopefully the fasting thing is only for those with ears, as I've just inhaled most of a very SMALL pizza and am now dissolving the salt content with a very LARGE tea. Still trying to work out the Brexit thing? is the church involved? Hopefully Pat and Rita are out there somewhere and the Lord is working all things together for good.
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Post by james on Mar 2, 2016 18:53:46 GMT
I think of the scripture Dave that talks of being old and fat and flourishing. I am not fat, far from it and then I am not what I would call flourishing in the sense that flowers flourish and look amazing when in full bloom. Therefore I wait for that geriatric trumpet call, which I trust has such a sound that it produces faith in those who hear it. It did for John on the island, made him rise up in the spirit to see and hear the end of Gods plan for mankind and the earth. I don't get a lot of time for sitting and thinking, yet thoughts do seem to jump into my mind. The last two days it has been a table spread before my enemies. Funny on the face of it that the Lord would spread such a table knowing we would be wary of coming to eat in dangerous company. Yet it is a certain strength of faith that is confident enough in the Lord to not mind the wolves that sit around the camp fire for the wolves are not held back by the firelight but by the presence of the Lord of the banquet.
James
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Post by Helen on Mar 2, 2016 19:26:25 GMT
Beautifully said , and inspired.. A triple amen!!
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Post by Dave on Mar 2, 2016 23:52:38 GMT
James, blinkin' good mate. I'd never put those thoughts to gether that it took faith for David to banquet at Saul's table but then you think of the javelin bit, definitely a test of faith, gives me a thumbs up that if you are following the Shepherd there's a security now and for the future. My only concern for the seniors trumpet is that it's "really" loud so the deaf can hear I know that scripture the O.F.F one, I try not to think of it That really blessed me, thanks.
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Post by Dave on Mar 4, 2016 5:34:55 GMT
Well here it is, 10pm, Helens called it a day, and it's been one of those Blah days, I know, you spiritual ones never have them, no inspiration, no perspiration, not even desperation. The scriptures were black print on white paper, although, in reading John 8 today, you begin to realise what a pivotal chapter it is in relation to Jesus and Abraham and Father God but tomorrows another day. My Chinese neighbour gave me a bottle of Barley pills from the health food store, good for what ever ails you and you are supposed to take 7 a day, they don't seem to work for the memory, but was taking them tonite and one got stuck, inducing much choking and coughing until it regurgitated, raising the question, why are they so big? I think I'd go for 14 small rather than 7 large, I remember giving horses worm pills that resembled a small sausage and one had to pull their tongue out the side and fire the pill down their throat, while massaging their Adams apple, we had one horse when you thought he had swallowed it and let his tongue go, fired it back like a rubber missile. Blessings on the early and late risers for tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 7:32:07 GMT
I know, you spiritual ones never have them, no inspiration, no perspiration, not even desperation.
LOL - I am not a ' spiritual one ' then as I get those days often !!
Early riser here, the sun is shining- they have forecast snow later, but I am skeptical. I have to go into Brighton about the time it is due to come down south, hmm woodingdean and buses from Brighton do not mix well with snow- so I had better wrap up warm incase I have to walk home !!
Hope you have a ' more inspiriational day ' Dave xxxxx
Rita
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Post by james on Mar 4, 2016 9:56:25 GMT
Well then Rita did you get the snow, we did. It was so wet and heavy that Daniel broke the scrappy thing that Jeanette keeps hanging by the front door for clearing rain and snow off cars. He was just pushing across the bonnet when bang as the snow built up in front of it it snapped.
At least if you walk home Rita you will keep warm, much better than sitting at a bus stop for one that never comes because the council can not afford to put salt on the roads. Do they salt roads in Canada Dave, never heard you mention it?
The taking of health tablets has always been an act of faith by me, I never feel great because of them. I more think "how bad will I feel if I stop taking them". I am taking the D and C after Helen said it would stop me getting colds (have one now) which pop by me once every two weeks. Now that is like our village bus service we had when we were children down South. I also Take Zinc because it is low in me, no idea what it does but now I know I have enough although I have not noticed any sudden surge in youthfulness or mental capacity. Could it be the Barley pills would complete the mixture and set me up for a ripe old age. I think on second thoughts I will give them a miss, its all I can do to swallow my tiny vitamin D.
Onward and upward!! James
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 16:55:38 GMT
Its been a beautiful sunny day - no snow yet, but they did say it would come this way later in the afternoon - so we will see what happens in the next few hours. I am at home now and have the weekend off.
Rita
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Post by Dave on Mar 4, 2016 17:53:38 GMT
Rita, your prayer was answered , Whilst out ( Oh by the way, +16 today,He, He, HE,) I found rabbit fluff and thought maybe the coyote only got a mouthful of hair, but after walking on, found more fluff and unless there's a bald rabbit running around somewhere, I fear the worst . But that made me ponder on the life cycle, the death of one means life to another, Mr coyote has reduced his meals from 6 running around to just one or two, so he has not wiped them all out, now, does he have a built in concept that he needs a least two to keep his supply line producing? ( Helen, dispelled this theory on, how would he know male from female,) I wonder maybe their scent is different, well, nothings perfect, But it made me think that Paul realised the cycle of life, that without a death there is no life, so he says "I" die daily, other than the Judaisers it seems Paul didn't really have a lot of demonic stuff to battle, other than himself, He writes " The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death" Roms 8 vs 2, so like the coyote, leaving two, the Lord has left us to deal with the "I" to bring forth the fulness of the Spirit of life. In Gods plan it took the death of the first "dead" Adam to bring forth the second "life" Adam, who by death brought life for the world. Rita, did you get what was forcasted? our weather prophets are not always right, in fact, as I think of it, Oh, well that's another story.
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Post by Dave on Mar 5, 2016 0:15:19 GMT
James, Yes the city does use a new process on our roads, it used to be a sort of gravel mix, resulting in a LOT of new windshields but now they spray the bridges and main thoroughfares with an ice melt stuff, then plough, so it's polished like a skating rink, then apply a salt and sand mixture, they've been pretty good this winter as we haven't had consistent snow, they usually have 5 ploughs staggered across the highway and gravel trucks following behind if you are in front, pedal to the metal, if behind, it's look for an exit. In extreme conditions they'll just close the highway down in sections, the next priority is bus routes and down town, and where we live low on the totem pole but we have "all wheel drive", Hallelujah. It appears everyone seems to know what I need pill wise as Helen gives me what didn't work for her, with the injunction, they won't do you any harm, Mrs Ho, obviously saw my need for barley, who knows a bale of hay might be next. I remember chewing the white long bit that's in the ground on bluebells as a boy, very organic, and a must for constipation. On a different vein, as one reads Ez 28 vs 11 -19 one is struck that the lamentation the prophet was to take up was concerning Tyrus, vs 13 seems to infer that this is not about Tyrus but about the cherub that covereth; and vs 15 says, " Thou perfect in thy ways from the day thou wast created, till iniquity was found "in" thee" hard to fit old Tyrus into some of this, it has more of a serpent ring about it, to state the obvious. Funny how one finds oneself back at the garden with A and E, now in chp 4 the Lord says to Cain, if thou doest not well "sin" lieth at the door. Hold that thought, We read that God put the two "Trees" and told A and E they could eat freely of "ALL" the trees except the knowledge one, so were they eating freely of the tree of life as they fellowshipped in the cool of the evening? now God warned that if they ate from the knowledge tree they would die, He does not say you will sin, we know because we have read the salient scriptures, that where the law is, there is sin but A and E didn't have those scriptures, so the only one who did have sin "in" him was the serpent and as he laid at Cain's door, he laid at A and E's door, now because we have read the book, we know E transgressed but A sinned because he chose the woman who he loved, over the tree of life, now did he inherit the "sin" that was "in" the serpent and hence we have Adamic sin?
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Post by Dave on Mar 6, 2016 3:54:59 GMT
Just read my post, and no one answered it. But as Ivor has profoundly said, "People will gather where they will." One of my favourite non scripture's, "He who expects nothing is never disappointed."
So I looked over some of the past threads on here.- A broad spectrum of christian concepts. Clarks got two replies. And obviously nobody was really interested in the 'Getting nearer' thread. 'The trumpet' didn't blow a lot of responses. 'Giving up on self', I guess not too keen on that title? 'The storms of life'- that one drowned.. 'Every idle word', no fear of that, no words!! 'Image and likeness of God', what's not to like? Love one another, reads well, Dumbo, must confess I had never scrolled down that far before, 'Fear not', forums don't scare me, With truth, speaking it with love and I am. So, "people will gather where they want. " Some one wrote- It matters not how the battle goes, The day how long; Faint not! Fight on! Tomorrow comes the song. "They overcame him by the blood of the Lamb---------and they loved not their lives unto the death. Rev 12 vs 11. This verse brings a reality to what may be closer than we think, it will bring the truth of- Do we have religion or a relationship? Religion will never bring you to a place where "you love not your life" only a relationship will do that.
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Post by james on Mar 6, 2016 11:26:06 GMT
Yesterday was all about the birthdays. Basically getting ready for Abbies party which we could not have last week. I never knew setting up a party and clearing up after was such a load of hard work. Also Fun! Dave lots in your post. I have never sucked bluebells and am to old to start now, that is unless I do get a major problem in the daily movement and need a quick release.
Now the subject of Tyrus and this bit- Thou perfect in thy ways from the day thou wast created, till iniquity was found "in" thee" Ez 28:15 I take this to mean that the devil, for I think this is about him, was without blemish in all his ways, which means the road he took, his journey, his custom, his manner, all was in line with the direction of the Lord God. Then comes the day when what was in him was stronger than Gods will, his word and he decided to do something that made all of heaven aware that he had stepped of to the side of the road.
Not unlike us we walk after the Lord but there might be a day when we turn back because we can not continue after hearing a hard word, like in John ch6.
I do not have a problem in equating Tyrus with Adam who for a time walked with God and did what God desired until the day he made a choice without deception to change direction. I can't see Adam getting sin via the devil, it was in him. Sin being the inability of the arrow fired to hit the mark. The slightest deflection at point of release means a mile of miss at the end of the flight. I had not thought that Adam was eating of the tree of life, don't know why just never considered that he was. Be interested to see how you develop that thought! I see that it says Tyrus had greater wisdom than Daniel and knew it all, he knew then how knowledge would destroy a person for he had gloried in his brightness and it brought him down.
Adam could choose to eat or not therefore I place the sin in Adam, he could choose where to aim at. I believe God had more or less said Adam its up to you , your choice.
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Post by Dave on Mar 6, 2016 23:29:59 GMT
James, like you, I've had a busy day today, and now you all will be tucked up and I've got to get ready for squash, so it will have to be the midnight oil when I get back, so sleep on, It's always amused me in the garden Jesus says to the disciples, sleep on, then it reads in his next breath it's, wake up. My feelings on the sin in the garden, is when satan/serpent, the created being did his thing in the heavenly realm and iniquity was found in him, he had then created sin, I don't believe either Adam or Jesus had sin in them, although they both had the ability to "choose" sin, one did the other did not, it's past me sleep on bit, we'll have to chew it tomorrow, To all the saints, have a God week, blessings to you all.
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Post by james on Mar 7, 2016 13:23:14 GMT
James-But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. I tried this on Helen Dave a while ago when speaking of how Adam was perfect. She said it just meant the desires that God had given us. The way I see it is that if a person can be tempted there must already be an inclination to sin. The process being lust-enticement-conception-sin-death.
When God said the day you eat thereof you die I think he was just cutting to the bottom line as they say. I do not see lust as just God given desires, it says "his own lusts", temptation is not sin but it is a temptation to sin. What does interest me is conception, what does that entail. To me it is as if the lust is joined to the enticement and then some sort of negative process of faith takes place, that being the womb in which the lust and temptation are joined.
It says faith comes by hearing, so is there a negative faith? We lust from our Adam nature, we hear a word of enticement and a belief is formed that this can be done, got away with. We believe we can circumnavigate what the Lord has said, it will be all right in the end. Then as we enact our belief we miss Gods mark and by so doing die.
Here endeth the word from the book of waffle. James
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