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Post by Poppy on Oct 2, 2020 11:19:31 GMT
Something made me re-consider the story of the prodigal son the other day.
The younger son went his way but repented and returned to his father.
The father did not condemn his young son but welcomed him home with rejoicing.
He placed a cloak over him to cover his tattered and dirty garments and placed ring on his finger.
Now I know that many of you will already have seen this but I believe that God shows us truths at different times and I suddenly saw that the ‘cloak is the cloak of righteousness and the ring is like the seal of the Holy Spirit which guarantees our inheritance.
He also put sandals on his feet but so far I have not seen the significance of that.
All old stuff, well known story but given new life. Brilliant.
And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory. Ephesians 1:13-15
I delight greatly in the Lord; my soul rejoices in my God. For he has clothed me with garments of salvation and arrayed me in a robe of his righteousness, as a bridegroom adorns his head like a priest, and as a bride adorns herself with her jewels. Isaiah 61:10
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Post by james on Oct 2, 2020 19:04:53 GMT
Might it be Pat, the feet shod with the gospel of peace, placed there by the father. Part of the armour of God, we walk in peace, sin dealt with. Receiving peace from the creator God and letting our peace abide in whatever place we visit, just as Jesus told his disciples.
Good word Pat, thanks.
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Post by Poppy on Oct 2, 2020 20:54:49 GMT
Might it be Pat, the feet shod with the gospel of peace, placed there by the father. Part of the armour of God, we walk in peace, sin dealt with. Receiving peace from the creator God and letting our peace abide in whatever place we visit, just as Jesus told his disciples.
Good word Pat, thanks. I already thought of that James but it doesn't seem to fit as this is about inheritance, There are also a couple of passages that say to take off sandals because you are on holy ground. I vaguely remember something about ownership. |
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Post by james on Oct 3, 2020 4:30:48 GMT
Is it about inheritance? The young son had already had his and spent it.
I see the story more about relationship to the father and position in the family. Just a thought.
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Post by ivor on Oct 3, 2020 8:30:39 GMT
Romans10 14-15 and Eph 6 15 refer to good news and feet, yet the good news is not just good news, its great news. The nuance of the Greek for the word gospel literally means that this news is 'almost too good to be true'. In our world when something seems too good to be true, it usually is. But this is not the case with the Prodigal Son or gospel of Jesus Christ. This news like the Father and son relationship is true and incredible, Paul reminds us that beautiful are the feet of those who bring this good news and announce it to the world.
Throughout the book of Romans, Paul refers to the gospel as his gospel. This is because this revelation came directly to him by Jesus. He said in Galatians, "I want you to know, brothers, that the gospel I preached is not something that man made up. I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ" ( Galatians 1:11-12 ). Paul wrote so extensively about the gift of God's grace offered to mankind through the person of Jesus Christ that he claimed this gospel as his own. He lived and breathed this message because it was the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes ( Romans 1:16 ). Pauls sandals certainly lead him to share the great news
Paul was set apart, called and ordained to be a minister of the gospel by the will of God. This is an amazing thing when you realize that before his conversion he literally hunted and killed Christians. He considered himself the chief of sinners, he could get no lower after caring for the coats of the stoners of Stephen (rather than caring for the man being stoned) but after he experienced God's incredible grace and mercy he knew that this good news wasn't too good to be true, that is why he said "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved" ( Romans 10:13 ).
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Post by Dave on Oct 3, 2020 16:30:48 GMT
To me the context of Lk15 is that those who drew near were publicans and sinners, Pharisees and scribes.
Two totally different groups and Jesus starts with, "and he spake 'this' parable unto them saying" and to me this parable consist of a trilogy of 'lost's and rejoicings'.
In the third segment the one that Pat presented us with is the very well known, two sons and the father, and like all scripture we interpret it from where the Lord has at the relevant time in our walk, about two weeks ago I had an odd dreamy thing after waking, and then being in a sought of never never land sleep, and in it, I heard in an old friend and he was telling me, the sonship message which we heard nearly 50 years ago that it was the time of restoration.
I shared it with Helen and put it on my shelf but Pat's post, jogged my greys and to me, the story with it's many applications of truth, is about that, restoration of Sonship, and the waiting father re-establishing what was already his as a son, forgiveness is empty without a restoration of all things; by the robe, the ring and lastly the shoes, these were the great distinguishing feature between a slave/servant and a son, and it would appear on his return that he was shoeless.
The BEST robe was a complete love and mercy approval, and the transfer of the prime inheritance from the eldest to the younger.
The ring is the transfer of the office of authority.
His father ordered shoes to be put on his feet to complete the transfer and restoration for him to walk in.
Faith, Hope and Love the great trilogy.
Restoration involves, Unconditional forgiveness, restored identity, renewed purpose and meaning and a joyful celebration, what is not to like!!!!
The younger son far from the house, publicans and sinners'
The older son far from the heart, scribes and pharisees.
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Post by ritab on Oct 4, 2020 7:53:56 GMT
I have a book by Mark Stibbe ‘ A Protrait of a perfect dad ‘ - it covers the sandals. The writer very much goes along with what Dave has said about slave verses son. It adds a little bit more though. There are two words for sandals in scripture, one aligned to mean ordinary sandals that were worn by poor people and one that aligns to expensive well made ones. The sandals that the father gives to the son are the latter kind, the expensive ones.
It struck me that the parables were given after ‘ the sinners ‘ were all gathered around Jesus to hear him, while the Pharisees were muttering their contempt for them. They didn’t see any value in any of them.
The parables convey more about the person looking for what is lost rather than what is lost.
( lost coin, the women searches. The Lost sheep, the shepherd searches. The Lost son, the father looks for him continuously) The lost we’re not merely forgotten, they were the focus. ( Not sure that many Christians today have that attitude in all honesty as many just have contempt for the ‘ sinners ‘.
Inheritance refers to the assets that an individual bequeaths to his or her loved ones , could this be about receiving value. Some people give loved ones things in advance of their death, rather than make the person wait.
This parable is only in Luke, which reflects Jesus’s humanity - he was talking to ‘ the sinners ‘ , and they wanted to ‘ hear ‘ him.
Rita
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Post by Dave on Oct 9, 2020 18:35:04 GMT
Good one Rita.
'I liked the line of what we value'; I believe that what we have a value for, will determine the amount of energy I'm willing too invest into it.
If I equate reading my bible into that value system, Oh Whoops!!!!!
Am I on the balcony with Wallander or Leviticus!!!!!!!
Maybe because Luke is labelled a physician, he has more of not only Jesus's humanity but also of those around and about when Jesus was teaching!!
It's funny how a verse will grab you, mine is, Prov 3 vs 5 'trust in and lean not' and then in verse 7 'Be not wise in thine own eyes; ---------------------'
and 8; 'It shall be health to thy navel,(??) and marrow to thy bones'
based on 'departing from evil' to me that ties in with which tree am I eating from?
Trust in the Heb's is Bittachon from a root meaning oddly; 'To lean on, feel safe, or be confident' So can one put in the verse 'Lean on(feel safe and be confident) the Lord with all thine heart, that accomplished, there is no need to lean unto thine own understanding.
To lean on, feel safe and be confident , we will acknowledge him concerning our ways, then we can lean on, feel safe and be confident of our paths.
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