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Post by Dave on Oct 18, 2019 19:20:41 GMT
For those who remember Patrick from the older days ... Amadeus asked if you would all pray and remember him.
He is now in hospital with Stage 4 lung cancer, with no hope of improvement, they have given up on any cure for him so I understand. He is understandably feeling very alone and probably scared too. I think he used to have a wife and kids but they haven't been in the picture for decades I think...so it's just him. Amadeus is trying to write to him every day.
Anyway, Patrick asked Amadeus to let us all know of his 'last fight' so that he would not feel so alone.
May he feel God's presence in his room...and angels when it is time for his last breath.
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Post by Dave on Oct 18, 2019 20:10:21 GMT
So as not to strain your discerning gifting; Helen put up Amadeus's pray request for Patrick; I know you all knew that anyway, far to eloquent for me.
So sad that at the end of one's life journey that one is found without a friend other than Jesus. I know the song says, "HE holds my hand" and we are in the hollow of HIS hand but in an hospital bed terminally ill, a warm flesh hand is worth more than black print on white paper, or than words in a song. My pray Patrick is that an angel nurse will come to you and hold your hand; and you will see Jesus. Blessings Bro. And we'll understand it, in the sweet bye and bye.
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Post by ivor on Oct 19, 2019 10:01:18 GMT
Its appears a hard prayer but I pray that when the person decides "enough!"... that its non-lingering
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Post by Dave on Oct 19, 2019 20:56:51 GMT
Robin, how's Vessy?, my accountant in Edm was a lupus sufferer and kept a very disciplined diet with her medication.
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Post by james on Oct 20, 2019 10:08:32 GMT
Amen to the prayers for Patrick, may the holy spirit make the Lord very real to him.
Vessy, hard to say, to me no different than before the diagnosis or pills. She did ask the local doctor for a diet which turned out to be "don't eat anything". You must not eat anything that will cause acid in your stomach, sounds odd since the tummy is full of very powerful hydrochloric acid. She might diet but that will depend on her desire to be willing to. Most people just want a pill to fix everything.
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Post by ritab on Oct 21, 2019 6:00:21 GMT
I am sure I must know Patrick as his name resonates somewhere in the grey matter- I am trying to remember him- anyone know about his forum life, what kind of character he was , this may trigger more memories for me. So sorry to hear the news about him, do we know for sure that his family will not go to him because he is end of life ( it happens all the time ) - if they don't, then thank goodness for Jesus being part of his life , constant companion. You k ow sometimes we don't actually needs other, sometimes Jesus is the very person that provides in certain moments, and end of life must be one of those times. It's out bodies that are dying, the real ' us ' is on the brink of something so much bigger. I would like to think that this makes this last stage of life easier for some. Rita
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Post by Poppy on Oct 21, 2019 9:26:46 GMT
I hope that even though his family aren't with him that perhaps some people from his church - or any local church - might feel that they can spend time with him, pray with him and hold his hand.
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Post by Dave on Oct 21, 2019 14:58:07 GMT
Patrick is an unknown to me, so as to family and church that too is an unknown, as far as I can ascertain Amadeus is a friend to him, in my limited experience with getting to 'the end' bit, it is not much 'fun' to many, the crossing over has to be the highlight. If I had my druthers I'd like the Limo' (Elijah) style ending.
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Post by ritab on Oct 21, 2019 18:34:10 GMT
I am sure in know Patrick, so he must have been on one of the forums that me, Helen and amedues were on together. As this is a prayer thread, can I ask for prayer for my ex husband- he has been ill for 12 weeks now, had scans and nothing gives answers for the pain he is in, he is in hospital now, needing a blood transfusion and another scan, he has lost a lot of weight ( which puts red flags up for me- wondering if they missed something in the original scans ) Thankfully his partner is keeping me in the loop, which has surprised me. Despite all the pain he caused me I find that I have deep concern for him. Sarah is currently up in casualty herself, worse case scenario is an emergency op on her back, it's just a concern her gp had. She is hoping it is just an over reaction on the part of the Doctor. I will know more later x Rita
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Post by james on Oct 21, 2019 19:11:21 GMT
Rita, have and will pray. Lord we want to hold up the arms of Rita that those in the valley experience experience a victory.
Patrick I was sure was on one of Mike's forums.
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Post by ritab on Oct 21, 2019 19:55:51 GMT
Thanks James x So it was a forum you were on as well - I keep trying to grasp a vague memory I have of a Patrick - but it's just not clear. It doesn't really matter as I can still pray for him xx Rita
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Post by Dave on Oct 21, 2019 20:51:30 GMT
We will be be praying for Sarah and your ex Rita, part of our calling is that we pray one for another that WE might be healed.
Hopefully the medical staff if they have missed something will find it, we will ask for restoration of, spirit, soul and body. Pain and weight loss are never in the natural 'good' signs unfortunately. Are you able to visit him or is that not a good idea?
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Post by ritab on Oct 22, 2019 7:01:11 GMT
Hi Dave, He lives in Hastings , so it's not really workable, at the moment, to visit him. Also I am not sure it would be the right move yet. Olivia has never really included me, so I do not want to create problems. I get on okay with her, but am well aware that I am the ' ex wife '. Sarah and my eldest son Mark will find it hard to know the right way forward if it is something serious- Sarah has disconnected on one level with her dad, for her own sake. We never really knew how to evaluate Jeff, for years we felt sorry for him, guilty, apprehensive , there was this concern but we weren't sure whether he really was as cold as he came across at times. Even this morning I am unsure of what I feel , I have anxiety in the pit of my stomach - it kind of feels like concern but it is mixed with apprehension. There were times when I felt like throwing a brick at him on one level, while feeling sorry for him on another. Poor dan , he has felt really let down by his dad in the months prior to him being unwell- so he now has the same mixture of emotions the rest of us have felt over the years. Even as I type there is part of me that doesn't want to feel anything for him, yet the tears are there - but what are they for, him, memories,my own pain - old wounds - it's very strange. Sorry, I have hijacked this thread, should have put this in my own thread. What ever I feel , it is deep and taken me a bit by surprise Rita
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Post by Dave on Oct 22, 2019 23:17:48 GMT
Rita you have a unique gifting of being able to share your emotions from your own perspective and that for me I would find helpful in a given situation. And the brick throwing, one only throws a blessed brick. . Coming from a back ground of no strong family ties does that constitute to being a blessing?,"Selah" It certainly did in one way when family were sick or dying as there was no emotional tie, so none were broken at the death of anyone. Helen's older brother is a staunch Kings fellowship visitation person and they live in Hastings, Would he be open for that sort of thing if we asked them to pray about it? Just a thought.
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Post by ritab on Oct 23, 2019 6:11:49 GMT
Thanks Dave, I spoke to Olivia on the phone last night, she rang me ( which is a first ) Jeff is not frightened, he is just going with the flow of what is happening, he knows that cancer has not been ruled out. I do not know what to suggest about your brother in law visiting - Jeff was always a bit of a conundrum with regards to my faith, we did the alpha course together once ( but feel he was just going along with it to please me - looking back he would have been having his affairs at that time, so that would have been the motivation - to keep me sweet ! ) I don't feel it would be right for me to 'arrange ' a visit, especially now that the lines of communication are opening between me and Olivia. However I cannot stop your brother in law from praying for Jeff and following whatever the Holy Spirit lays on his heart - I am sure he has visited the conquest hospital many times if he has that gifting, does he perhaps randomly walk round the wards chatting to people ( do they allow that ) I have no idea how long Jeff will be in for , and I do not know what ward he is on at the moment, they moved him yesterday. Yes, I have had family members that have died and I have felt nothing, which suggests that deep down I still have an emotional connection to Jeff ( That takes me back to something the Holy Spirit laid on my heart when my marriage was ending, at the time I did not like what he relayed ' I can rekindle the love you had for him ( jeff ) ' At the time, I didn't want any love for him rekindled - I took it to mean that I would ' fall in love with him' again. Maybe it meant a different kind of love !! Rita
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Post by ritab on Oct 24, 2019 12:42:57 GMT
Jeff has got lung cancer, and it's spread , there is not hope of treatment. All of us are devasted......he finds out this afternoon how long he has got left. Rita
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Post by Poppy on Oct 24, 2019 14:27:14 GMT
Jeff has got lung cancer, and it's spread , there is not hope of treatment. All of us are devasted......he finds out this afternoon how long he has got left. Rita I pray that God will give him peace.
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Post by Dave on Oct 24, 2019 15:52:25 GMT
Sorry for your news Rita, we will be praying for him and the whole family. Love to you all.
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Post by james on Oct 24, 2019 18:56:49 GMT
Yes Rita, we will pray.
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