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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 16:52:32 GMT
I recently had occasion to need to reset my internet connection by switching off my router and switching it back on again. Internet scammers have found a way to detect when that happens and make a follow up call, ostensibly to check that you have made a satisfactory re-connection. They think that by linking their call to me having to reset my connection, I will be lulled into thinking they really are from my internet provider. They then explain that the faulty connection was likely to have corrupted something in my computer so could I log-in so that they can check it for me. Those who fall for such a scam are then only a few short steps away from their scammer being into their bank account. After stopping short their call I dialled 1471 to check on their phone number only to find that they hadn't given one. So I then arranged with my provider to put a block on incoming calls which do not give a number. That worked for a couple of days, but then I started getting calls which had not been blocked because they had used the number 0011943349287 .... but if you try ringing that number you will find that it doesn't exist. Same old tack.... had my re-connection worked satisfactorily?.... could they check my commputer in case it had got corrupted in the re-connection? etc., etc. So I again contacted my provider and asked if they could put a block on incoming calls from 0011943349287 ..... but they couldn't do that because it wasn't a proper number.
But with hackers being able to hack into the USA defence computer systems, how long will it be before, without first making a phone call, they can get straight into the bank accounts of those who use the internet?
666 is nearer than we might think.....if indeed it's not already here.
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Post by james on Feb 20, 2017 20:46:22 GMT
Bless my soul, it's a good job you were savvy enough to spot the phoney and not get sucked into a scam to empty your bank. What little old folks do who have no one looking out for them I hate to imagine.
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Post by ivor on Feb 20, 2017 20:52:02 GMT
After "hello!" I never say another word if its sales or a scammer but I lay the phone gently down with the speaker still open and with no one replying. Often they simply remove you from the list 1st time but definitely 2nd time you do it to them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 21:22:31 GMT
After "hello!" I never say another word if its sales or a scammer but I lay the phone gently down with the speaker still open and with no one replying. Often they simply remove you from the list 1st time but definitely 2nd time you do it to them.
Brilliant idea, I presume it disables their operation for quite a while whilst your phone lays there with the speaker still 'open'. But other side of the coin is that you've also disabled your own use of a phone.
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Post by Helen on Feb 20, 2017 22:58:07 GMT
After "hello!" I never say another word if its sales or a scammer but I lay the phone gently down with the speaker still open and with no one replying. Often they simply remove you from the list 1st time but definitely 2nd time you do it to them.
You are more gracious than I am, As soon as they "Hello how are you"... I scream at them to take me off of their call list. My older daughter does it differently..she just answers with fake Chinese-
" Hing ping chow yong fung ho?" They hang up 😂 😜
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Post by Helen on Feb 20, 2017 23:17:05 GMT
Bless my soul, it's a good job you were savvy enough to spot the phoney and not get sucked into a scam to empty your bank. What little old folks do who have no one looking out for them I hate to imagine.
You remember that dad was very sharp even in old age..
He once had a call telling him had won $3000, ( for something he hadn't even signed up for!! A miracle. ) he was told that only needed to send a cheque for $400 processing fees, and then they would release his money.) Dad was writing down notes about where to send his money etc. He was furious with me when I grabbed the phone and in "the love of Jesus" , obviously,..... I screamed down the phone.."YOU ARE AN EVIL THIEF AND ABUSER, MY FATHER IS 85 GET OF THE DAMN PHONE AND NEVER CALL BACK."
Well done Mike, but how sad for the old and even young who fall for that. I believe that whoever they are, they probably have all our information anyway.
I wont have a 'smart' TV ( which can be used like a computer) Neither will I have a smart-phone. There are many warnings about how they , whoever they are...can hear anything that is said in the house even when the devices are turned off. Personally even if they listen to everything Dave and I say..they would die of boredom.
And if and when "they" come for us..we are safe, as my old man has a machette under his bed 🙃😂
But, the hacking into our money and accounts, or even stealing our identities is becoming a real serious problem now. It is not a safe world.
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Post by Dave on Mar 18, 2017 1:32:25 GMT
I was reading in Rev concerning the "Mark" of the beast, I wonder who has THE understanding of any of that stuff but if there is one thing that most people have in their hand, it's a hand held device; linked to the tree of the knowledge of good and evil//// Does that qualify as, the evil of the Internet??? .
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Post by ivor on Mar 18, 2017 7:47:09 GMT
my Dad got scammed and lost several £ thousand by telephone scammers and the police told us that at the age of 80 he was a "premium" target and scammers buy age related lists from legal data suppliers and they spend their day phishing for victims either on computer or by telephone.
The police advised a telephone number change because of the way they were targeting him. BT (British Telecom) do the number change for free for over 80s because its so prevalent.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 10:27:06 GMT
my Dad got scammed and lost several £ thousand by telephone scammers and the police told us that at the age of 80 he was a "premium" target and scammers buy age related lists from legal data suppliers and they spend their day phishing for victims either on computer or by telephone.
The police advised a telephone number change because of the way they were targeting him. BT (British Telecom) do the number change for free for over 80s because its so prevalent. Maybe BT should do something more positive about the problem (like issuing a warning and advice to each over 80 customer) since those over 80 with 'savvy' will not get caught whereas those without savvy are unlikely to take the step of arranging a telephone change off their own 'bat'.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 19:01:44 GMT
We get calls regularly from people who tell us - in very Asian accents - that they are calling about our computer so when I answer the phone and one of their number is on the other end I just cut them off immediately. I will not even confirm my address or telephone number or any other details over the phone.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 9:11:18 GMT
As another step into the clutches of '666' I have just bought a reconditioned second hand IBM ThinkPad R51 laptop running on Windows XP. It originally cost well over £2000 and is a superb 'Professional's toy' that is ideal for my Digital Imaging work on my pictures. BUT....WindowsXP is no longer supported by Microsoft which means that it is impossible to completely protect its use with an Anti Virus programme. Maybe many of you think that NAPC is already controlled by '666'.
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Post by james on Aug 27, 2018 19:58:42 GMT
I run two computers side by side. One is an old desktop running XP and the other desktop runs windows ten. I use one screen, one mouse and one keyboard. I have a control that at a press of a switch I move from one to the other. I have some very good programs that will not run on 10 and they have become degraded as they have been so called updated for window's latest OS. Best of both worlds.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 3:43:21 GMT
I run two computers side by side. One is an old desktop running XP and the other desktop runs windows ten. I use one screen, one mouse and one keyboard. I have a control that at a press of a switch I move from one to the other. I have some very good programs that will not run on 10 and they have become degraded as they have been so called updated for window's latest OS. Best of both worlds.
What do you use for anti virus protection? I'm told by my provider that since Microsoft stopped updating Windows XP there haven't been any that can guarantee absolute protection. Apparently all anti virus programs are geared to Microsoft's virus updates so everyone running XP is now vulnerable in respect of the latest.
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Post by james on Aug 28, 2018 19:22:04 GMT
I use Avast and Spybot search and destroy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 20:44:51 GMT
I found the following on the internet:
Microsoft stopped supporting Windows XP with security updates, making it more vulnerable and a prime target for hackers. However, Avast Antivirus will keep your old Windows XP PC protected regardless.
I also read that if you use Spybot as well as Avast then the two together will slow your browser.
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Post by james on Aug 29, 2018 19:30:28 GMT
You want your cake and eat it!! If you want protection and a good computer for your pictures with the advantage of a fast browser then buy a new Apple Mac and blow the 4000£ ticket price, otherwise be content with what you have and put Avast only on it. That's my advice, for what its worth.
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