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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2020 4:53:24 GMT
I live in the now, I do have a place in my heart for commentaries on scripture by some of my favorite old giants of faith - but other than those commentaries old forum threads are old newspapers to me (sorry). Even if they are my old postings it was the me back then not the me now, Mike you often said that non of us change our views yet something happens because non of us today are the person we were just a few years ago and for me God only works with me as I stand today. To create a reference work from whats gone before may make interesting reading and if the Lord leads you to that process then more power to your elbow my friend, you have a wonderful insight into all of us and can no doubt compile something powerful.. non of us can turn back time but you can write a book about it, You never know it may be cathartic. Thanks Ivor, you cause me to ponder deeply on my problem of excessive nostalgic reminiscing on things that have past and gone. It may well be down to the tragic loss to cancer of my 56 year old wife Jean, who meant so much to me; having been my very first childhood sweetheart since the age of 10. It was almost 50 years ago that I lost her and, because her death caused me to realise that during our marriage I had given far too much attention to my commitment to various business endeavours, hardly a day has passed when I do not chastise myself with "too late now" and "if only". I think that must be what makes me what I am, and its a punishment that I just have to bare. But thinking of your concentration on "the now" I realise that is surely the "better part", if only it were possible for me (notwithstanding Jesus' words to Martha concerning her concentration on 'mundane everyday duties'). At 85 I guess my punishment will stay with me until my end.
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Post by ivor on Feb 7, 2020 5:36:00 GMT
Been given a wife for a long period then one or the other is going to feel the great loss and terrible grief... I so dread the demise of my wife and selfishly hope we go together but that's highly unlikely. The most difficult part would be the leveling influence she gives to my stupidity...
Alas we do mature over the years which does lead to regrets and I too regret the workload I had when my children were little and would love to turn the clock back and the older me bring them up not the younger one who was far more opinionated
This miniscule church without walls must seem a conundrum
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Post by Dave on Feb 7, 2020 18:49:51 GMT
Membership= state of being a member of a group or organization. Does that imply only one group or is it possible to flow amiably in more than one? I must 'fess I'm a one groupie person but hats off to those who have the 'time' and inclination for more than one, . I am probably one of the oldest ADD site sufferers, my old mum would tell me off for not being able to sit still but I was living in the now at the time. But all if us are now livers, "until" the day breaks and Mike, the shadows flee away, . Jesus said in one of His many parables;" Therefore every scribe instructed in the unto the 'kingdom of heaven' is 'like' unto a man an householder, which bringeth forth out of HIS treasure new and old. So in my walk I've kept many seemingly old newspaper Ivor, and as they have become treasure I can hang on to them for to 'me' they are 'kingdom of heaven" stuff' So it's probably that old none scripture, each to his own .
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Post by ivor on Feb 8, 2020 8:56:35 GMT
How often do you read past discussions from years ago Dave? I only ask because we two may be at the opposite ends of the spectrum with me not going there at all
I see discussion and debate like those giant blackboards with steps that math people fill with strange equations until they finally reach the answer, they then log the answer and wipe the board clean.
Yes with us the process is the most enthralling part while it's occurring but its the personal conclusion that we all come to having shared a debate that slightly changes our view
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 9:41:21 GMT
How often do you read past discussions from years ago Dave? I only ask because we two may be at the opposite ends of the spectrum with me not going there at all I see discussion and debate like those giant blackboards with steps that math people fill with strange equations until they finally reach the answer, they then log the answer and wipe the board clean. Yes and with us the process is the most enthralling part while it's occurring but its the personal conclusion we all come to having shared a debate that is most important and that slightly changes our view Dave is only 'in the centre of nostalgic reminiscing'. It's me you must look to if you want an extreme example.
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Post by Dave on Feb 8, 2020 15:20:14 GMT
The short answer Ivor; no, but on any thread I post on, I always go back at least 4or5 posts before adding, I had no idea the objective of refreshing the other site was just to go back and read the old posts . As to the spectrum, which colour are you? Is the thought "I live in the now" really self explanatory or am I just thick; don’t answer that!!! My Christian journey goes a long way back from the now, much of my today now has been predicated on all the nows along the way, do I live in the past, his mercies are new every morning, to me just another now to add to all the rest. On the natural side of my life, much has been forgotten, age does not for me generate a lot of " I 'live' in the now" moments, survive maybe. But on the christian side, all those old newspapers define my living in the now, and delivery is on a personal daily basis not just a Sunday one size fits all. Thanks Mike for the middle ground position, I just have to work out which way to go 'now' . Helen always has enough nostalgia and memory for both of us!!!!! Mike as to your 24 hour replies, we over here wrestle with the time change as to our night and everybody else’s day and as to Twinc I’d take him over Corbyn any day.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 17:50:49 GMT
I had no idea the objective of refreshing the other site was just to go back and read the old posts . Chuckle Dave. For my part it was the dearth of activity on SiT2, and the death of activity on livingwater.createaforum.com/ that caused me to reminisce on the quality of those lovely posts that were laying dormant for want of a nudge back into 'life'. But since its relaunch the site has averaged 50 posts per day and has enjoyed the addition of 10 new members; all of which so satisfies my need, that I just haven't had time to indulge in 'life in the past'. "As the Hart pants after the waterbrook so panted my soul"..... prior to the relaunch. Nevertheless there is still a gap waiting to be filled by the return to posting of yourself, Ivor, and James.
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Post by james on Feb 8, 2020 19:55:35 GMT
Was it living in the now that made The Lord say to Moses "come up into the mount and be there". If Moses had not taken the prior steps, including rescue from death,the life of a prince, murder, life of a shepherd, Gods deliverer. then he would not be at the bottom of the mount on the fateful day that he was instructed of God to be there. Those steps made him who he was as he was by them fashioned of God. Living in the now causes me to bring to bear all my past dealings and steps and to concentrate them upon that which presents itself for my attention. I thereby live in a constant continuation of the dealings of the Lord. Only a fool would dare to say "God dealt with me thus" and conclude that because the situation lay in the past that the dealing also was in the past rather than acknowledge that we serve a God who can not die and as such all dealings are as continuous within each of his children as the very life of the creator himself. Imho
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 14:06:11 GMT
Hi Ivor, Glad you made it across and posted in livingwater.createaforum.com/ Just leaves Dave to make the leap. James did so but hasn't posted as yet.
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